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working, it is your issue, too. [applause] sec. clinton: we are going to get family incomes up and that is one of the fastest ways of doing it. when i think about what we can do together, i am really excited. i am tired of donald trump for many reasons, but i am tired of him downgrading america. i am tired of him really speaking ill of our country. i am tired of him talking about how we are just a third rate country. i do not know what country he lives in. there is no other place that america that has more people working harder right now. [applause] sec. clinton: so let's get real here for a minute. we have work to do. that is absolutely true. there is nothing we cannot do if we make up our minds to do it.
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i want us to have an education system that provides a first-class education to every child no matter what zip code that child lives in. [applause] sec. clinton: i want to work with our teachers, educators and our other school staff to give our kids the best possible start. in order to do that, we have to begin with early childhood education, so that when they get to school, kids are ready to learn, and we are going to finally get the cost of college affordable for families. [applause] sec. clinton: i want to make it possible that you do not have to borrow a penny to pay for tuition at any four-year, public college or university and we are going to help you pay down your debt and pay it off so you can get out from under that burden. [applause] sec. clinton: i am going to defend the affordable care act
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but i want to improve it. we are going to get the cost down, premiums, co-pays, deductibles, prescription drug costs and then there are two issues i want to tackle with your health, mental health and addiction. [applause] sec. clinton: i have met too many people traveling the country over this past year who have told me the stories of their mental health challenges or someone in their family or a loved one. i have heard too many parents and grandparents talk about losing a younger person to addiction, to an overdose. we have got to confront this and deal with it, more services, more resources, more treatment, more recovery, people do not along in jail if they have a mental health or substance abuse
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problem. [applause] sec. clinton: now, when you talk about what most people are concerned with, it comes down to their families, their lives, their futures. that is why jobs is number one, education and health care, but we have more work to do besides that. i am going to introduce in my very first day as president, comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship. [applause] sec. clinton: i am going to build on the good work president obama has done for which he does not get enough credit, by the way, for all he has done on the economy and health care. but in particular, i am going to build on the work you started with criminal justice reform and ending over incarceration. we are going to provide more diverse and programs, more second chance programs. i am also going to do everything i can do defend a woman's right
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to make her own health care decisions. [applause] sec. clinton: and that includes, that includes defending, not defunding planned parenthood. [applause] sec. clinton: and i will defend marriage equality and work against discrimination. [applause] sec. clinton: we are going to defend voters rights and i will appoint supreme court justices that will overturn citizens united. [applause] sec. clinton: i am going to defend workers rights and the rights to organize and bargain collectively. [applause] sec. clinton: and i am going to take on the gun lobby for common sense gun safety reform.
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[applause] [crowd chanting hillary] sec. clinton: i tell you, just about everything i just said donald trump disagrees with. we are going to have quite an election, aren't we? i personally cannot wait to debate him. [applause] sec. clinton: but you know, when you vote tomorrow, you are not just voting for the next president, you are voting for the next commander-in-chief. i gave a speech in san diego a few days ago that outlined all of the reasons i believe he is not qualified to be president and he is temperamentally unfit
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to be commander-in-chief. [applause] sec. clinton: i have to confess, when i was preparing that speech and going through it, even i was thinking, he really said that? but in fact, he did. he attacked our closest allies, has praised dictators, said we should pull out of nato, the premier defense alliance. he has casually suggested he does not care if other countries, including saudi arabia get nuclear weapons. he has advocated a return to torture. he said he would order our military to kill the families of suspected terrorists, which is an international war crime. now, i know foreign policy is not always a big issue in the
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presidential election, but here is what i want you to know and understand. just ignore that, what i want you to know and understand is this. [applause] sec. clinton: here is what i want you to understand. when you are in the situation room in the white house, the hard decisions are the ones that get to be president. if they are not hard, someone else decides it along the way, and when we had intelligence that we perhaps knew where bin laden was, i was part of a small group to analyze that intelligence and to work with my colleagues to make a recommendation to be president. it was personal to me because i
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was a senator from new york on 9/11 so i was there at ground zero, 24 hours after we were attacked and i said that i would do whatever i could to bring bin laden to justice for the murder of 3000 innocent people in our country. [applause] sec. clinton: so we went over all of the intelligence and finally the president said, after days of this, that he wanted each of us to go around the table and get a recommendation. the people of that table were experienced, experts and everybody are respected, but each person had a slightly different take. some people said, you know what, the intelligence is not strong enough and we should not ask. others said, you know what, it is strong enough for a missile attack but not to send in special forces. and a third option was, it is strong enough and we have to send in special forces because otherwise we will never know
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whether or not we got him. i was in that third category and i recommended that to the president, but here is what i want you to understand. the president makes the decision. when he said he was going to retire, take all of his notes with him to go off and deliberate, it was his decision. he came back the next day and said he was going to order the seal team. it was as crisp and courageous a decision i have seen because it was a risky one. when the day came and we were all crowded in the situation room watching what we could see on the monitors, something happened. those of you the saw the movie, maybe you read about it, one of the helicopters clipped its tail which meant it was disabled. after the seal team fought their way and, kill the bodyguards, bin laden's son and him, they
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knew they would have to blow up the helicopter because we could afford to leave it with all of the advanced technology there. seconds were passing by. people were waking up around there. this is a military base in town equivalent to where our west point is. every second counted, but you know what those seals did? they took all of the women and children to safety. they led them out of the compound before they blew up that helicopter. [applause] sec. clinton: that is what donald trump does not understand. that is honor. that is a representation of the values of the american military, the american people and our country. [applause]
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sec. clinton: so there is so much at stake notches for america that for the world. the final point i would ask you to consider is how we are going to unify our country. you know, abraham lincoln said, the house divided against itself cannot stand and like so many things, he was right about that. what we have to figure out how to do is begin actually listening to each other and respecting each other. [applause] sec. clinton: unlike donald trump, i do not think i have all of the answers. if you want to vote for somebody who thinks they have all of the answers, well, you have donald. when asked who his advisers were on foreign policy he said, well, i listen to myself because i have a very good brain. [laughter] sec. clinton: also my other favorite, i cannot let it go.
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he was asked about his foreign-policy experience and he said, well, i took a miss universe contest to moscow. [laughter] sec. clinton: my point is this, we have to listen and learn from each other. no one person has all of the answers. that is why it is so important that we have a conversation in america about how we are going to get things done, move it forward, lift us up. we are stronger together. i will go anywhere any time to seek common ground. i will talk to anybody. i did as first lady, as a senator, as secretary of state and i will certainly do that as president. [applause] sec. clinton: but i cannot do any of this without your help. i need you to turn out tomorrow. get everybody you can to go vote tomorrow. make a very clear statement. we are repudiating donald trump
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and getting ready for the fall election. we are going to defeat him if you will vote for me, i will work for you, i will fight for you and together we will create the future america deserves. god bless you all. [applause] ♪ >> hillary clinton currently has 2360 delegates and the 23 democrats -- delegates to clinch the nomination. senator bernie sanders has 1567 delegates and needs 816 delegates to secure the nomination. there are 546 democratic delegates up for grabs in the california primary tuesday as .ell as 142 in new jersey montana has 27, new mexico has 43, and south dakota has 25.
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>> our live coverage of the presidential race continues tuesday night with primaries in six states. california, montana, new jersey, new mexico, and north and south dakota. >> a more different vision for our country than the one between our side of democrats for progress, prosperity, fairness, and opportunity, then the presumptive nominee on the republican side. onwe are going to win progress, education. no more common core. bring it down. bring it down. we want it local. with healthto win care. we are going to win at the border. >> we have got to redefine what politics means in america. we need people from coast-to-coast standing up, fighting back, and demanding a
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government that represents all of us, not just the 1%. >> join us live at 9:00 p.m. eastern for election results, candidate speeches, and your reaction. we will look ahead at the fall battleground states, taking you on the road to the white house on c-span, c-span radio, and c-span's washington journal, live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. coming up tuesday morning, mark historic -- hispanic research director for the pew research center, discusses the role the hispanic vote has played just far in the voting power this group has in the fall elections. then we look at the role of the pension benefit guaranty corporation, the financial stress it has facing, as well as broader retirement security issues for americans.
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our guest is the economic studies program guest scholar at the brookings institution. be sure to watch "washington journal," beginning live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on tuesday morning. >> senator bernie sanders held a news conference in california. the day before that states primary. he response to questions about his plans after today -- tuesday's primaries. this is 15 minutes. senator sanders: good morning. thank you all very much for coming. i want to thank the people of california for the incredible support that they have shown our campaign. during the last several weeks,
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we have held 38 events. 38 separate events in 34 cities across california. one of the things i enjoy very much is getting out to communities where other candidates do not go. those include some small towns. we have been amazed at the kind of turnout we have seen at these rallies, which have been attended in the last several weeks by over 215,000 californians. tonight, we're going to be of our the last rally california campaign here in san francisco. we hope to have a good turnout there as well. what i said from day one in california, which i think most people agree with. if the turnout is high tomorrow, we will win. if the turnout is very high, i think we will win by big numbers. , we willrnout is low
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probably lose. my request to the people of , to those who are prepared to stand up and fight for real change in this country is please come out and vote tomorrow. let us see california have the highest voter turnout in the history of the state in terms of the democratic primary. campaignge of our throughout california and throughout the country has been very consistent. it has been straightforward. i think it is the message that working people and the middle class want to hear. that it is just too late for establishment politics and establishment economics. we need real change in this country, not superficial change.
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real change. which will end the trend in our country of moving towards an oligarchic form of society in which a handful of extraordinarily wealthy people control both the political and economic life of our nation. corrupte have a campaign finance corrupt system in which super pac's are able to buy elections. economy in which study after study shows that almost all new income and wealth at a timeo the top 1% when the middle class continues to shrink and shrink and shrink and when millions of our people are working longer and hours for lower wages.
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we will not able to move forward as a nation and address this millions of people stand up, i in demand a government which represents all of us and not just the campaign contributors. we need a president and government to lead us into comprehensive immigration reap warm. today, we have 11 million people living in the shadows and living in fear because they are undocumented. reform so that we and the national embarrassment of having more people in jail the and any other country in earth. we need to pass a medicare for we do noto that
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remain the only country on earth not to guarantee health care to all people. address the planetary crisis of climate change, our children and grandchildren will pay the price which is why i believe need bold action. i have gone around california in and learned something i did not know. are tens of thousands of families in the state living in homes that where when they turn on the tap, they cannot get drinkable water. that is a growing crisis in america and throughout the world. which is why in my view we have got to ban fracking today. lastly, it is clear to me that we have got to do everything that we can as a nation to make certain that donald trump does not become president of the united states. it is incomprehensible to me
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that in the year 2016, in the year 2016, given all that we have gone through as a nation for hundreds of years and trying to end racism, trying to end bigotry, trying to end discrimination, that we have a candidate of a major political party today who it is essentially running his campaign on bigotry. on insulting mexicans and latinos. on insulting muslims. on insulting african-americans and women. it really is quite mind-boggling that this is taking place in the year 2016. it is clearly imperative that we do everything that we can to see that that type of bigotry does not end up in the white house. i am very proud that in virtually every national poll and every statewide poll that has been done, including the recent polls here in california, we are defeating trump.
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and we are defeating him badly. just here in california, not to mention every other state. the last three polls had is beating trump by 34 points. by 29 points and by 23 points. the last point i would make is that in all of these polls, and in virtually every polls not nationally and in various states, we defeat trump by larger numbers than secretary clinton and in some cases she is losing two trump when we are defeating him. recentt point is the insult to judge gonzalo. again, beyond comprehension. this is the year 2016. to attack a judge because he has a mexican heritage? a man born in the state of indiana? this is a candidate of one of
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the large major political parties in this country. it is really quite incomprehensible and i think the american people understand that. in terms of where we are politically, i think i've said everything i had to say a few days ago. if there are any questions on the issues. >> [inaudible] excuse me. ma'am? ma'am? >> [inaudible] sen. sanders: other hands are up as well. jeffrey, do you have a question? >> staying in the race is getting in the way of a could be the first female president. sen. sanders: is that a serious question? your question implies that any person, any woman who is running for president is by definition the best candidate. any woman who runs? to say that it is sexist if any --
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so, if hillary clinton runs for president your point is that it is sexist for any man to a voice -- for any man to oppose her? >> [inaudible] sen. sanders: that is another point. i do not think it is sexist. i think the issue is -- first of all, our focus right now is running and winning right here in california. the second point i have made is that it is absolutely imperative that we defeat donald trump as candidate for president of the united states. i believe i am the strongest candidate. yes. >> you said that you must do everything you can -- [indiscernible] sen. sanders: trying to thwart hillary clinton? the issue is, who is the better candidate to become president of the united states and defeat donald trump.
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right now, our focus is on winning the largest state in the country. and then south dakota, north dakota montana, new mexico, doing the best we can for new jersey. new jersey will be a difficult state for us. our goal is to get as many delegates as we possibly can and to make the case to superdelegates that i believe the evidence is really strong. that i am the strongest candidate. >> at what point do you become a spoiler? sen. sanders: first of all, let us focus. i really hesitate, as you know, to be engaged in speculation. tomorrow in california, if i do very well, and i do not know that we will, but if we do well in the other states, if there are superdelegates out there who say , you know what? looking at the objective evidence of polling, looking at the objective evidence of has the strongest grassroots campaign and can bring up the largest voter turnout in
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november, which i think is crucial. if some of those superdelegates begin to think it's bernie sanders, that's not insignificant. >> thank you, senator. in 2008 you endorsed barack obama two days after he crossed the magic number with pledged and superdelegates before hillary clinton exited the race, well before the convention. the burlington press is saying and quoting you that i you would do everything you could to get him elected. why is this different in your case? sen. sander: again, i made the point i wanted to make the other day. the issue right now is that we have an important primary tomorrow. that is what we have. we are running as hard as we can. as soon as we leave here and get some food in my stomach, i will be talking to a lot of people in doing everything i can. we've got a good rally here in san francisco. so right now my focus is on
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, winning the largest state in the country, which has 475 delegates. and in winning those south and north dakota elections, in winning montana, and in winning new mexico, doing the best we can in the tough races in new jersey. so that is where i hope -- >> i just want to clarify if i can, you said you will look at how you do tomorrow and whether the superdelegates are turning. if the numbers are not with you tomorrow and you don't get an indication, would you consider endorsing hillary clinton before the convention? sen. sanders: that is some ring something, first of all, you are asking me to speculate. let me talk to you after the primary here in california am aware we hope to win. let's assess where we are before we make statements based on speculation.
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>> senator, when you talk about , regardlessent time of what happens tomorrow, can you give us insight as to how you would like to bend the rest of the week, thinking through your superdelegates strategy? sen. sanders: we will be in l.a. tonight. tomorrow night, sorry. taking a plane back to burlington. certainly, we will be campaigning in washington, and d.c. >> are any of the superdelegates committed to switching to you? [inaudible] sen. sanders: we are in private conversations. we have superdelegates in three or four states of gone with us. >> more? sen. sanders: yes. >> [inaudible] does that have any bearing on your thinking? [inaudible]
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sen. sanders: the most important primary is tomorrow. tomorrow we have 475 pledged delegates coming up. my job in the next 24 hours is to do everything that i can to win those delegates. let me conclude by saying this. when we started this campaign over a year ago it in i thinkon, vermont, that most people, most of you and most of the punditry thought that this campaign would not go very far. and yet here we are on june 6, debating who will win california. we now have won 20 states. we may win a number more tomorrow. we've won over 9 million votes.
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we have won in every state that we have contested in. when we talk about the future of america it is that in overwhelming numbers, we are winning the support of people 45 years of age or younger. people who are the future of this country. i wish that i could tell you that we were doing better among older people. we should be, but we are not. but we are doing phenomenally well among the people who are the future of this country. who will shape the future of this country. that is a point not to be overlooked. thanks very much. >> how are you feeling about california, senator? [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2016] >> as california voters prepared to cast their votes, dan walters
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writes the following, hillary -- has's seemingly suddenly developed some potholes. what happened? dan: not a lot in the last few days. bernie sanders and hillary clinton have an running up and down the state campaigning. strangely enough, donald trump has been running up and down the state. i do not know why. he hasn't locked up. all aiming towards the primary. the voting by mail began weeks ago. probably over 50% of the ballots have been cast. maybe 8 million or 9 million votes will be cast by mail. we will not know what happens tuesday night probably because of the large percentage of mailed out ballots.
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they can be counting those four days or weeks. it has happened before in california so it might be a while before we know what happens in california on election night. host: senator sander showing no signs of dropping out. dan: no. although it is unlikely he could derail hillary clinton. she may claim it before the polls even close based on what happens in new jersey. obviously, for him to win here andd be embarrassing to her give him wind behind his sales going into the convention to do what he planned to do. demand changes to the party platform. >> you point out a difference.
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dan: not so long ago, they were casting ballots. a full-blown presidential contest goes back a long time. half a century perhaps it's that happen. important was the endorsement last week of california governor jerry brown or hillary clinton because as you know there has been a long and difficult relationship between governor clinton -- between clinton and governor brown. dan: if she wins, governor brown could count that as a personal victory and she could oh him. he would have a claim on the clintons and they would have a debt to him that would probably have to be repaid. something like roving global ambassador of global warming or something like that because clearly he needs to make that his signal issue in the days after his governorship,
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lieutenant governorship, and ends. you would like nothing better than to survey high-profile role where he could run around to the global conferences and talk, which is what he loves to do. i think there will be a debt or if she wins very narrowly and they can say his endorsement put her over the top. host: back in january, hillary clinton had an 11 point lead in california, and april 6 points. dead heat according to the latest surveys including one from nbc news and the wall street journal. doesn't feel this close as you are on the campaign trail and watch before the final vote? dan: they have been all over the state. going to places that not even statewide candidates usually go to. small towns and so forth.
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so i think they think it is there and it is extremely close. why? well, who knows. it has something to do with her and making the revelations about the e-mails. she has a likability problem, there is no doubt about that. maureen dowd wrote that in her column the last day or so. bernie sanders is quite personable and has an appeal to young people. they like somebody outside the establishment who wants to shake things up. his appeal is not dissimilar to donald trump's. in outsider always has a certain appeal to voters. and what he actually proposes in terms of substance and policy. of thecare and some other things he espouses has a lot of residents in california. california is a certain wing of
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the democratic party is extremely liberal and they do respond to that sort of thing. host: let me ask you about what we can expect tomorrow. donald trump has been campaigning in your state and he says he can win california. for the democrats, it is a must-when state in order to get 270. will these sander's supporters go with hillary clinton? what about donald trump's claim that he can win the state. -- dan: is continuing antipathy between the clinton and sanders camps. i do not think there is any possible way donald trump can win in california. the republican party registration is down to 23% aunt it is just ludicrous to think that donald trump could overcome that sort of thing and when. excuse me, 27%.
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thethat is almost as low as no preference people at 23%. democrats, 44%. it does not wash. the republicans have not one california since 1988 when the elder george bush won it. it is a state that used to be a fairly reliable republican state. one californiaon in 1992, it was only the third time a democrat won california cents world war ii. california used to be a very republican state, at least a very reliable republican state and that changed her medically in the last couple decades. it is a very blue state now and for someone as polarizing as donald trump, not even a centrist or some sort of a figure like arnold schwarzenegger or something, the idea that he could do that is
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ludicrous. i think used just having fun with it or trying to shake things up but he is not going to win california. host: dan walters who is a columnist for the joining us from california. thank you for being with has. dan: you're welcome. announcer: coming up on c-span, profiles of three potential vice presidential candidates. then, a discussion on the united states economy and monetary policy. survivort, hiroshima said sue go thurlow. setsuko thurlow. announcer: c-span washington journal live the every day with news and policies that influence you. marc hugo lopez will join us to discuss the role the latino vote has played so far in
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the united states. [fireworks] applause] >> of next, a look at three potential presidential candidates. we begin with new to gingrich. him on the state of the party and whether he candidatepresidential if asked. after that, a look at two potential candidates for hillary clinton.
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elizabeth warren gives a talk talking about her career and the establishment of the protection bureau. after that, senator sherrod brown. we spoke with washington post political reporter chris so lisa -- chris cellizza. he is the founder of the fix. host: thank you for being with us here on c-span. as we look at potential running mates for the m a chronic and republican nominees, let me begin with five candidates you say donald trump would never select as his running mates. who are they? --s: i put most ofson these on the list, they do not need to do it.
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the ones that i talk about, ted cruz is probably your best example. the guy who finished second to donald trump. someone who is political in a way donald trump says he wants his pick to be. and probably40's on interested in latching his wagon to donald trump. in the event donald trump loses this race ted cruz will be a front runner in 2020 if he looks to run for president so probably not the risk. cruise, marco rubio is retiring. someone who has a bright future. this 2016ome good in campaign and two is not i do not think going to hook himself to with the fear that donald trump is unpredictable in a way that
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could really jeopardize your future if you were one of the candidates sharing a national ticket with him. >> one of the names mentioned most often, and number one on your list, former house speaker newt gingrich. what does he bring to the ticket? chris: there is a wonderful story i would recommend by by eliana zwrones national review. she wrote about the increasingly close relationship between gingrich and trump. what does he bring to the ticket? he has also maintained an outsidery status that trump finds appealing. i think the other thing that he brings, honestly, and i think what trump needs more than anything in an in depth knowledge of policy. his knowledge of policy is extremely limited. in picking gingrich you would get someone with a big brain. some people would take his ideas are wrongheaded, but he is
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someone who knows public policy, who is been around public policy discussions for a very long time. and someone who is not uncomfortable with the limelight. newt gingrich, despite not having been speaker for more than a decade, has the remained very, very active in republican and conservative circles. host: and not only has he run for president before but more than anything, he is somebody who is interested in the job. he's been publicly talking about it and we'll hear from him in just a moment. chris: that's right. that's why i made the who wouldn't take it list first because there are a number of people who would have to think very, very, very hard about taking the vice-presidential slot in a way that with any other candidate they wouldn't. trump poses a unique set of risk and challenges for someone looking to take on that job that
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a hillary clinton or a ted cruz, frankly, as a nominee was not present. host: finally, do you know how donald trump will go about the process of selecting a running mate? chris: well, he has talked somewhat openly that they have become the process. ben carson, his name is sometimes mentioned, is helping lead the vice presidential search process. here is what we know -- everything we've learned about donald trump is that he's basically his own best and advisor. really only he does what he thinks is the right thing. my guess is a group of folks, corey lewandowski, his campaign manager will be involved. they will come up with a smallish group of people, vet those and trump will either pick one of those or pick one of his own. what we have learned is that there is not a blueprint, what donald trump decides is what gets done in that campaign. so, we're going to spend a lot
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of time handicapping who he might pick when in pact he has -- when in fact he has more potential to go off the beaten path and pick someone than anyone in modern history. host: and of course we'll follow your list available on line at as that -- as this process unfolds. thank you for being with us. dan: thank you. host: with that, our conversation with former house speaker newt gingrich. host: speaker, the state of the republican party in 2016 is what? newt: exciting and dynamic. host: how so? newt: well, you have a brand-new candidate we've never seen before. you have thousands of people coming into the party. i think, ohio alone, there were 100,000 former democrats who voted in the republican primary. you have a really vigorous and real debate about policy in a way that is very healthy, i think. you have the most state legislators in the history much the republican party, going back to 1854.
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more than ever before in our history, you have republican state legislatures. it's a robust party in a time of enormous change. it's going to have a lot of stresses and strains but i suspect that the republican convention will be actually better and easier than the democratic convention this year. host: why do you think so many people in the political class looking into this race a year ago, very few, if anyone, predicted donald trump? newt: i wouldn't have. i've known trump for years and it wouldn't have occurred to me to predict that donald trump could win. i think that he has exhibited a level of skill, and a level of understanding of the american people that were both unknowable when he first started running. and i think he has also changed some of the game. he's the first candidate who really understands the sort of kardashian model of social media where you can tweet, you can facebook, you can instagram, you can do so many different things
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that are very inexpensive and yet very effective. and i think he's up to about eight million people on facebook following him. well, he communicates with them for free. i mean it's very different from , the model that existed a year ago where you were supposed to do what jeb bush did, go out, raise $100 million, and by ads and have a big paid staff. also he's a guy that's uniquely self-confident and willing to rely on himself. host: but you ran for president. you know what it is like. past candidates -- mitt romney, john mccain -- some things that got them in trouble don't seem to get donald trump in trouble. why? newt: i think the country is more frightened and then it was four years ago. i think it's more worried about the economy and about national security in terms of islamic supremacists.
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and i think that as a result, the vast majority of republicans, it's not true of democrats, but the vast majority republicans have concluded that you need somebody who is going to kick over the table. they are just determined to change how washington operates. and what they concluded actually starting with the very first debate that fox hosted, which was the first time i really leaned forward. i've known donald a long time. calista and i have a good relationship with him. i knew he was going to run, we talked about as early as january of last year. but at that first debate, later on that night, you had all of the elites over here saying he had done terribly. in you had twitter in google facebook saying he had one. and i thought, wow, something is happening out there. we are luckily still a country where the average voter is, in the end, is as important as each average tv analyst because they each get one vote. i began to realize that trump was on to something that none of the rest of us understood.
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he had 16 competitors, a lot of them were really smart people. left.'s the last guy host: you draw the analogy, in i want you to drill down into this. said what we experienced as a nation, back in 1776, and the american revolution that followed, is not atypical of what we are seeing with donald trump on the republican side and senator sanders on the democratic side? mr. gingrich: that's right. i think what you've got is a country in which, if you combine the sanders in the trump vote, you are probably at 70% of the country, which is just that appeared you know, people forget that when the americans decided to rebel, and this is part of why calista anltd i decided we had to do "the first american" and do a biography of washington as a movie.
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what happened was, they gradually, over a ten-year. , came to the conclusion that london no longer cared about them. then they came to the conclusion determined tos impose its will on them and you have this constant reference back. washington talks about why we're going to be on our knees in submission or why we are going to stand and fight for independence. the total mishandling in new york. the arrogance of the washington bureaucracy. they look at the radicalism of many of the judges. they look at the hell you're to win a war after 14 years, almost 15 years of fighting and sacrificing. all of those pieces come together and they say, you know, it is time for change.
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when i looked into it a couple demandack the number one after taxation without representation was british judges. asy saw the judges instruments of the state imposing a radical view on the american people. and there model, the jury set aside decisions and they were really against what they saw as tyranny. they really saw themselves standing up for their rights as a free people. i think you have a lot on the right and the left. they're really disgusted with the current establishment. host: if donald trump is our next president, how do you think he would be as a decision-maker? newt: this is a guy who is made a lot of money as a decision-maker. you would see him being decisive, but constantly learning. i think you would hire very good -- he would hire very good people.
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he has a very good track record. you cannot run a system the size of a trump system without hiring good people and delegating like crazy. he is hotels, golf courses, restaurants, buildings, real estate. the number one tv show. i mean, all of these different things. miss universe. you cannot juggle all of those without he was smart. you have to have some kind of system by which you delegate and i think he would try to recruit -- and i said that in one of the try to -- he would recruit very energetic people to be cabinet officers and give them assignments of very dramatic change. host: but if you look at specific issues, the second amendment, guns, abortion, taxes -- he has changed or shifted his views on these fundamental topics. is that a problem for him? newt: it is a little bit of a problem. he is having to deal with it. but i also think you have to start with the idea that on june
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16 last year, he had been a businessman shot his mouth off and had opinions like rich people do. all of a sudden on june 16 last year, he became a candidate for president and is he's having to learn in public in real time and it's a tough league. it is a much harder league than people think it is. and i think he is learning some things that sort of, i think that cause him to slow down and think a little bit more. he is better today than he was six months ago. he will be better in three or four months then he was today because he doesn't constantly. he's not just a loud, bombastic person. he's a very smart, thoughtful guy, but he is thoughtful at a sort of profound strategic level. he is going to fudge some here and there. he will start out over here as a negotiated position,
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then fall back to hear. but the general directions are going to be very clear, and the general directions are going to involve, i think very profound change. host: 22 years ago, contract with america. that was your mantra, your mission statement for the american people should you gain control. house. should the republican party have that in 2016, or some version of that? newt: yes. they need a simple document. not a giant, 3,000 page platform. they need, by september, two -- to find 10 things that we can agree on that they would do in the first 90 or 100 days if they were elected, and they need to bring back together in the house and senate. i think that by september, most of them will be happy -- most republicans will be happy to be on the same ticket. and most will be happy to pick really big, decisive changes. host: why do you think speaker ryan has been so hesitant to endorse donald trump?
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newt: i think what happened is everybody thought they had 60 days to finish up the process and ted cruz, wisely in my judgment, decided to drop out after indiana. all of a sudden, instead of having 60 days to get to know each other, they were confronted with the knowledge that he's the nominee. he wasn't ready to be the nominee that fast. ryan had a strategy in mind to spend may developing a set of issues so they could negotiate with trump. there are differences. but it is really fascinating. i think -- i know, as a matter of fact, they have staff for both teams working together and they're putting stuff together, and i think presently everything will work out you. i don't disagree with ryan about this -- it is better to go slower and make sure by the time you get to an agreement, that it is real rather than to jump in, paper it over, have a brief,
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happy press conference, and then find out you have nine fights coming. host: how is speaker ryan doing? newt: pretty darn well. much better. they worked at things to get control of the system and i think both are going to turn out to be very effective leaders. host: since tip o'neil voluntarily stepped down, every speaker of the house was either forced out of office, lost reelection, or decided not to seek the speakership in 1998. why is it so different today than 20, 30 years ago, the job of speaker? newt: well, i think you lumped together several different things. hastert lost the majority. pelosi is still there but left the speakership because she lost the majority. those two are just the natural part of the process. raburn twice lost the majority, in 1946 and 1952. those things happen. in the case of boehner, i think he was genuinely worn-out. i think what had happened was he
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obama, whobetween had contempt for the republicans, and a hard-core group of republicans who were growing in strength who were furious at their leadership for not figuring out a strategy to stop obama. and i think he finally just -- and we were with the boehners on the day that the pope came, and mrs. boehner turned and said, you know, it's just really, really hard. and you could tell how tired she was. so, i was not surprised. that was sort of the high point of john's life. i mean it wasn't going to get , dramatically better than having pope francis there. and so, i think at that point, they decided that it was the better thing to leave. in my case, i lost seats in an election where people thought we should gain them. and i had led only by the virtue of providing victory because i was a very aggressive, very tough speaker.
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and, so i had no natural reservoir of coming you know, let's hang out even if we did not win. and it was the first time since the 1920's that we kept control for three cycles, and denny kept it the longest time of any republican speaker in history. so we had a heck of a run for a party that had not been in power for 40 years. but it's probably good i left because i needed to go renew my thinking and my energy level. and the conference needed to not have to deal with me for a while. host: why? what do you mean by that? newt: i was very tough. i pushed people all the time. you don't balance the budget for four straight years. and pass welfare reform and medicare and welfare and reform the federal communications act in strength and the intelligence community against the president -- you do not do all of those things without having a fair number of people who are bruised up in the process. and after a while there were
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more bruises than smiles. host: you probably saw the headline from "roll call," the case for gingrich as trump's running mate. [laughter] host: as you know, a lot of speculation. will you be doing the second week of july? newt: first of all, i think i will be in cleveland, but i may well be there as a commentator for fox. i have no idea. you know, i have an unusual name. it's a name that's been around a while. so people know if they write newt gingrich and puppy dogs that they'll get a certain level of readership just by definition. so, there are a lot of really good candidates for vice president. this is the first really big decision trump will make. it will be entirely personal. he has people doing lots of vetting. in the end, donald trump will decide. i have no idea what he's going to decide.
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host: you have said you would, quote, listen carefully. first of all, have you had any conversations? newt: we've had no conversations about the vice-presidency. as you know, because you were there -- finished our ninth documentary on george washington. she has her sixth ellis the elephant book coming out in october called "hail to the chief." i have my second novel about terrorism, "treason," coming out in october. so we're fairly busy. it's not like we're hanging out hoping somebody will give us a job. i think we would obviously be respectful, and i think we would want to sit down and talk it through. i think if it was a position that in trump's mind that would have a cheney-like significant role we'd certainly have to consider it. if you get to go to lots of funerals, we would probably pass.
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host: you mentioned dick cheney. who do you think -- who has redefined the job of vice president? newt: i think cheney more than anybody in modern times. he was, at least for the first term, he was enormously strong and involved in everything. and you know, johnson played a bigger role than people think. he was never an insider with the kennedy clan, but they gave him for example, space as a portfolio. anti-did a good job. -- and, he did a good job. i would say george h.w. bush played a significant role. i think reagan did including him on a regular basis. i think al gore played a significant role. if you go back and look, there was a very good chemistry between gore and clinton which unfortunately for gore did not come through in the 2000 race where i think clinton could have won the race for him if he had allowed him to.
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i don't have quite a sense of what biden does, but he does seem to be an intimate of the president. that's where it starts. presidents define vice presidents, not vice versa. if you have a president who wants a colleague and wants somebody to do real things, then they can do that. if you have a president who doesn't -- there is a great new book about nixon and eisenhower which i think is called, "the statesman and the apprentice." very flattering toward nixon and very flattering towards eisenhower's interactions with nixon the gives you the sense he was the first modern vice president. host: if you were to ask donald trump, what would you ask him? what does he have in mind and how would you wanted to find a role for you? newt: having some substance to modernize the government. i think we are so clearly 20 or 30 years behind our capabilities that
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it's going to require a very substantial amount of effort to get us back on track. host: would it be a fun job for you? newt: everything i've ever done has been a fun job. i tell people, i wake up in the morning and i'm like the 4-year-old who knows there is a cookie somewhere and my job is to find it. i'm almost always happy and doing fun jobs. host: have you always had a curious mind? newt: i guess. as far back as i remember i've been curious. host: why do you think hillary clinton wants to be president? newt: i suspect at one level, that she as a very young woman in high school and college, really got the sense of trying to help the country, in her terms. i think that she probably thinks she's far and away the best equipped, given everything she's done in the life. she has been in the room for eight years with bill. she's been a u.s. senator, secretary of state, she's a bury -- very bright, hard-working
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woman. and i think that all of that kind of fits together. host: but as you know, she talks a lot about her husband in the eight years he was in the white house. you worked with bill clinton on a couple of key issues, welfare reform and balancing the budget. if you are on the ticket does that take away one of the issues she talks about on the campaign? newt: i don't know. she'll have her version be reality, we'll have ours. host: so, what is your version? new to: for example they always , talk about how they balanced the budget. they tend to drop out that 35 days we closed the government to get his attention. initially they were against balancing the budget. an example of slight difference of view. host: will the impeachment be an issue in the fall? newt: no. not the impeachment per se, not the lewi


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